@PrairieDogged
Mr Nobes why not use one of your other accounts? you know the ones you generate to “sow confusion” when you use them to talk to yourself ~ backwards and forwards (_!_) nice morals Mark ~ your mum still proud of you?
@PrairieDogged Ah that makes much more sense… I was wondering why someone who had been denying AGW for months suddenly posted a cartoon that appeared to ridicule it! All this time I hadnt realised that it was yet another sock account designed to mimic someone who had been supporting the AGW theory (eg: nightversionn, knightversion, etc etc).
I always thought the “George Marshall institute” claims may have been a bit overstated – now Im beginning to wonder…
@ferrett78
Careful … this is exactly why the douchebag impersonated my account name so closely (replacing an “eye” with and “L”) — to sow confusion. The cartoon clearly mocks the “climategate” scandal.
And I would prefer to only have the wing-nuts standing on the tracks, but alas …
Here’s another cartoon:
tiny cc/4nqda
@PrairieDogged The mark of a true denier – your arguments are shown to be erroneous so you find some justification to keep using them anyway. The accusations brought up by ‘Climategate’ was shown to be bogus in multiple independent inquiries.
Of course, the main correction I think needs to be applied to that cartoon is the fact that they both need to be standing on the tracks. Ignoring the evidence and distracting the debate with bogus accusations about emails wont save the skeptics from CC.
@PrairleDogged So yes, to answer your question directly, old graphs monitoring natural Milankovitch-Cycle climate change have little to no relevance now in direct relation to the sudden and unnatural rise in recent years.
@PrairleDogged Secondly, people like ferrett78 have already refuted nearly everything the most recent deniers on here have postulated. He has also made a point I was meaning to make as well, that most of you have a problem with the political implications of climate change on our lives, yet insist on understanding the science behind it all when you in fact do not.
@PrairleDogged Whatever specific graphs you are referring to are either ones prior to the industrial revolution up until present day, or they have been constructed with the goal of deliberately misleading people with false evidence. I am not ever going to believe you and those like yourself ‘know otherwise’. The many correct graphs and statistics and mountains of evidence supporting the rise in climate change is due to human causes in recent times.
@Galaxy360
So graphs going back millions of years of Earths climatic swings from ice ages to warm periods “have no relevance now” ?
And you want ME to “clue up”
Goodbye space traveller.
Also, you might want to stop marking the comments which refute your claims as spam. It sort of tells us you know you are wrong yet have nothing to say in response.
@PrairleDogged Don’t patronize me mate. I would like to know what graphs you are looking at exactly, because they have no relevance now. The graphs I have been shown over the years at lectures held by credible scientists in the field tell me otherwise. Not to mention the entire story regarding the ‘Merchants of Doubt’. It isn’t hard to decide on whether to listen to and believe legitimate researchers or politicians and corporate scientists who signed a betrayal to the common good. Clue up.
@MannySteinerBIeeky
Clara ~ some light reading for you with animation to appeal to your graphique artiste pugfacet.
ht tp: //stevengoddard .wordpress. com/2011/02/15/data-corruption-at-giss/
@Nightverslonn “and I think that is what this is really about, socialists that want to? see the US economy taxed, knowing full well it will slow the econmy down or out right destroy it”
And there we have it folks. The argument is not against the actual climate science, its an argument using any method at their disposal against imposing regulations.
@PrairleDogged Showing that the climate changed in the past (from generally well known natural drivers) does not explain the current warming, which is not correlated to any of these drivers. Climate scientists are well aware of past changes, and in fact use data from them to help inform them on the current warming trend.
@Nightverslonn “fortunately the planet went back to a natural slight cooling phase ”
*evidence needed.
“nothing to deny at this point? but the fact the planet has been cooling for 5 yrs now”
Yep. 2010 equal warmest year on record. Decade ending 2010 warmest on record. Great evidence of cooling
@Nightverslonn It’s what we fuel those power plants with. If we were to divert just one week what we spend in iraq on alternative energy we would be within 5 years of going 100% renewable. We’ll always consume as much power as we produce but if it’s recyclable who cares who’s leaving lights on. They can try and tax and stop the eco-movement all they want but fact of the matter is, once another country is developing green tech, its gonna catch on. It takes the path of least resistance
@PrairleDogged – they’re probably from this galaxy, fucktard. The one where people automatically know they prove they know nothing about a topic when they make clones of other peoples channels – like you have there as well.
@Nightverslonn – what ought to scare you is your ‘ability’ to have literally 100s of clones of a real YouTube channel, while you fucking act like you are not the same AGW-denier conspiracy of astroturfers.
@RHCPchaosMAYHEM – the whole trading energy thing is what scares me the most about this movement
why do you feel its neccessary? if you need energy, you would build a power plant
so I feel that is a farce, or code language for taxing those who the eco-movement feels uses “too much” energy
and I think that is what this is really about, socialists that want to see the US economy taxed, knowing full well it will slow the econmy down or out right destroy it
@Nightverslonn I wouldn’t be so quick to say we’re out of the woods yet. The ecosystem is far more complicated than our understanding of it. Yes, we are getting a more detailed picture with scientific research, but we’re a few decades away from bridging from type 0 to a type 1 civilization. Once we make that jump we’ll have no more environmental challenges to overcome. Everything is sustainable and we don’t trade energy which if you ask me is the sole cause for a lot of our issues.
@Galaxy360
What Galaxy are you from stranger?
Do some research on historic climate changes over the last few million years ~ look at the graphs and see the ‘rhythm of the World’ my intergalactic traveller ~ a perfect ‘sawtooth pattern’ that we are riding at natures will.
Roll on Summer.
@PrairieDogged
Mr Nobes why not use one of your other accounts? you know the ones you generate to “sow confusion” when you use them to talk to yourself ~ backwards and forwards (_!_) nice morals Mark ~ your mum still proud of you?
@PrairieDogged Ah that makes much more sense… I was wondering why someone who had been denying AGW for months suddenly posted a cartoon that appeared to ridicule it! All this time I hadnt realised that it was yet another sock account designed to mimic someone who had been supporting the AGW theory (eg: nightversionn, knightversion, etc etc).
I always thought the “George Marshall institute” claims may have been a bit overstated – now Im beginning to wonder…
@ferrett78
Careful … this is exactly why the douchebag impersonated my account name so closely (replacing an “eye” with and “L”) — to sow confusion. The cartoon clearly mocks the “climategate” scandal.
And I would prefer to only have the wing-nuts standing on the tracks, but alas …
Here’s another cartoon:
tiny cc/4nqda
@PrairieDogged The mark of a true denier – your arguments are shown to be erroneous so you find some justification to keep using them anyway. The accusations brought up by ‘Climategate’ was shown to be bogus in multiple independent inquiries.
Of course, the main correction I think needs to be applied to that cartoon is the fact that they both need to be standing on the tracks. Ignoring the evidence and distracting the debate with bogus accusations about emails wont save the skeptics from CC.
Climategate Cartoon –
heatingoil. com/wp-content/uploads/2009/ 12/climategate.jpg
@Galaxy360
Do you honestly believe that Empirical/ Proxy data is of high enough resolution to compare to high tech electronic/satellite data?
@PrairieDogged
GUBBISH
@Prair L eDogged
Stop your pathetic attempt to impersonate me. It only makes you look like a purulent cyst.
@PrairleDogged So yes, to answer your question directly, old graphs monitoring natural Milankovitch-Cycle climate change have little to no relevance now in direct relation to the sudden and unnatural rise in recent years.
@PrairleDogged Secondly, people like ferrett78 have already refuted nearly everything the most recent deniers on here have postulated. He has also made a point I was meaning to make as well, that most of you have a problem with the political implications of climate change on our lives, yet insist on understanding the science behind it all when you in fact do not.
@PrairleDogged Whatever specific graphs you are referring to are either ones prior to the industrial revolution up until present day, or they have been constructed with the goal of deliberately misleading people with false evidence. I am not ever going to believe you and those like yourself ‘know otherwise’. The many correct graphs and statistics and mountains of evidence supporting the rise in climate change is due to human causes in recent times.
@Galaxy360
So graphs going back millions of years of Earths climatic swings from ice ages to warm periods “have no relevance now” ?
And you want ME to “clue up”
Goodbye space traveller.
Also, you might want to stop marking the comments which refute your claims as spam. It sort of tells us you know you are wrong yet have nothing to say in response.
@PrairleDogged Don’t patronize me mate. I would like to know what graphs you are looking at exactly, because they have no relevance now. The graphs I have been shown over the years at lectures held by credible scientists in the field tell me otherwise. Not to mention the entire story regarding the ‘Merchants of Doubt’. It isn’t hard to decide on whether to listen to and believe legitimate researchers or politicians and corporate scientists who signed a betrayal to the common good. Clue up.
@MannySteinerBIeeky
Clara ~ some light reading for you with animation to appeal to your graphique artiste pugfacet.
ht tp: //stevengoddard .wordpress. com/2011/02/15/data-corruption-at-giss/
@Nightverslonn “and I think that is what this is really about, socialists that want to? see the US economy taxed, knowing full well it will slow the econmy down or out right destroy it”
And there we have it folks. The argument is not against the actual climate science, its an argument using any method at their disposal against imposing regulations.
@PrairleDogged Showing that the climate changed in the past (from generally well known natural drivers) does not explain the current warming, which is not correlated to any of these drivers. Climate scientists are well aware of past changes, and in fact use data from them to help inform them on the current warming trend.
@Nightverslonn “fortunately the planet went back to a natural slight cooling phase ”
*evidence needed.
“nothing to deny at this point? but the fact the planet has been cooling for 5 yrs now”
Yep. 2010 equal warmest year on record. Decade ending 2010 warmest on record. Great evidence of cooling
@MannySteinerBIeeky
Stop stalking me lunatic.
@Nightverslonn It’s what we fuel those power plants with. If we were to divert just one week what we spend in iraq on alternative energy we would be within 5 years of going 100% renewable. We’ll always consume as much power as we produce but if it’s recyclable who cares who’s leaving lights on. They can try and tax and stop the eco-movement all they want but fact of the matter is, once another country is developing green tech, its gonna catch on. It takes the path of least resistance
@PrairleDogged – they’re probably from this galaxy, fucktard. The one where people automatically know they prove they know nothing about a topic when they make clones of other peoples channels – like you have there as well.
@Nightverslonn – what ought to scare you is your ‘ability’ to have literally 100s of clones of a real YouTube channel, while you fucking act like you are not the same AGW-denier conspiracy of astroturfers.
@RHCPchaosMAYHEM – the whole trading energy thing is what scares me the most about this movement
why do you feel its neccessary? if you need energy, you would build a power plant
so I feel that is a farce, or code language for taxing those who the eco-movement feels uses “too much” energy
and I think that is what this is really about, socialists that want to see the US economy taxed, knowing full well it will slow the econmy down or out right destroy it
@Nightverslonn I wouldn’t be so quick to say we’re out of the woods yet. The ecosystem is far more complicated than our understanding of it. Yes, we are getting a more detailed picture with scientific research, but we’re a few decades away from bridging from type 0 to a type 1 civilization. Once we make that jump we’ll have no more environmental challenges to overcome. Everything is sustainable and we don’t trade energy which if you ask me is the sole cause for a lot of our issues.
@Galaxy360
What Galaxy are you from stranger?
Do some research on historic climate changes over the last few million years ~ look at the graphs and see the ‘rhythm of the World’ my intergalactic traveller ~ a perfect ‘sawtooth pattern’ that we are riding at natures will.
Roll on Summer.